Thanks to Shrink, who pointed this one out some time ago.
This Uncommon Ground post has attracted four comments. All are from the Naschie Party. I've colored them green. If anti-Naschie comments appear, I'll archive them in black.
T. Mann | June 15, 2009 2:46 PM | Reply
Gentlemen. An accused is innocent until proven guilty. I am sure you have heard this sentence before at least in Western Europe and the US. Even if you think you are a jury or a High Court and even if you think that a Founding Editor in Chief who has run his journal for two decades is a criminal, then at least get your facts right. Nature has long deleted its article from all the internet webs. Everyone who is in the know has already got the news. It is shocking news. The journalist of the defamatory article in Nature is at best an irresponsible journalist. At worst he is a man who was commissioned by certain quarters in Holland and Germany to frame Mohamed El Naschie. The state of affairs in Hamburg is already scandalous as more and more people realize how our press freedom is being misused now even in science. If in doubt contact Nature. At least a scientific blog should have enough scruples to shrug from defaming people and destroying their lives not even on suspicion but on hearsay from unreliable journalists.
Brad | June 17, 2009 1:41 PM | Reply
You are talking about John Baez and someone mentioned Mohamed El Naschie so let me tell you that. It is really more than depressing to see in which publicity and media society we are living. Some wrote a great deal and I am sure with good intention. Unfortunately whether they realize it or not, they relied entirely upon hearsay. I am afraid they are being used without their knowledge to publicize what a determined little clique want the world to believe. If you are interested in facts then here are the facts. Mohamed El Naschies work was plagiarized by a group who wrote a paper published about a year or so ago in Scientific American. The group leader is Dr. Renate Loll. She works with the Nobel laureate Gerard ‘tHooft in Utrecht. She is originally German and worked in Max Blanc Inst. near Berlin. She knows Prof. El Naschie very well. Many years ago El Naschie gave a lecture in her Max Blanc Inst. in Germany. That is the first connection. The second connection is that El Naschie is a very close personal and scientific friend of Gerard ‘tHooft. Without his knowledge many scientists, students and collaborators of El Naschie wrote angry letters and comments to Scientific American complaining about Loll. This was quite embarrassing for Renate Loll and many of her friends came to her rescue. It was also embarrassing for Nobel laureate Gerard ‘tHooft because Renate got 1.2 million Euro prize for this work in addition to a 2.4 million Euro grant research money for the Inst. of Gerard ‘tHooft. In a cloak and dagger action decision was taken to punish and discredit El Naschie. That is how the whole thing started. The one man internet army John Baez was called to direct the attacks and a meticulous plan was drawn involving Nature, the Inst. of Physics, UK and finally Die Zeit in Germany. All this failed to reach the ultimate goal and now they are baffled as to how El Naschie could sustain all these attacks and stay stedfast. If you check you will find that Die Zeit first modified their article, then withdrew it. In addition El Naschie won a case in Munich against Die Zeit and another case in Hamburg is about to be won. It is established beyond any doubt that Christoph Drosser, the journalist of Die Zeit was lying. He was lying to help his friend also a German named Quirin Schiermeier who works for Nature. Nature has realized that they have been conned. They withdrew their article from the internet. There is a case pending in the High Court in London. El Naschie is a victim of a colossal defamation campaign led by all the above. Now to the facts about him. He is a scientifically and financially totally independent person since he was 30. He is now 66 and has run the journal for two decades. He neither needs promotion, nor fame nor in fact money. He got his Diploma in structural engineering from the University of Hannover. He got his Ph.D. from University College London in 1974. He was a student of Lord Henry Chilver who was the science advisor of Margaret Thatcher. He was invited to join Cambridge. He never applied nor needed to apply for a job anywhere, including Cambridge. He has published about 900 papers and his average productivity dropped when he became the Editor in Chief of Chaos, Solitons & Fractals which he founded. Chaos, Solitons & Fractals is still being produced and carries the name of Mohamed El Naschie and his papers are still being published. Scientific questions of the merit of his work should be discussed in scientific papers, not on blogs devoted to gossip. None the less, here we are. We live in a world it seems controlled by gossip. I am in Google, thus I am. It is really sad, extremely sad and the most sad point about it is that the truth nowadays is a function of repetition and publicity. John Baez notorious article about El Naschie disappeared and so did all the other articles. However from this evil defamatory article, millions of other articles mushroomed and the truth is totally lost. Then a year or two later these gossips land on your desk and you try to rationalize the irrational but all that you have done was really planned for you to do without your knowledge. I hope these facts do not depress you as it does depress me and I hope you check everything for yourself. Do not jump into conclusions. Just remember what Hitlers propaganda minister said. When you make a lie, make it so big that most people will say it is impossible for it to be a lie. Mohamed El Naschie was a great guy for twenty years running the journal which he founded for all that time. All of a sudden, after the publication of Renate Loll’s paper, everything changed and John Baez and his Zoran Skoda, the self appointed guardian of science has nothing else to do lately except defame El Naschie, his collaborators and students.
Oliver | August 1, 2009 7:17 AM | Reply
If you want an update on El Naschie, then you probably should ask Nature or MacMillan Publishing. It speaks for the high standard of Nature that they admit a mistake on one of their foreign correspondents committed one. The author of the Nature article Querein Schermeier was induced to write this defamatory article. He has been charged in Germany and now according to the European Community New Rules he has to face trial at the High Court in London, UK. If he is innocent, he will be discharged. But if the allegations are proven that is to say he wrote this defamatory article intentionally or has been paid for it by a third party then Nature will face a multimillion pounds damage and Querein Schermeier could face imprisonment. This is an update worth the first page in Google and it should be a warning for all these irresponsible editors who have turned our lives into a cheap soap opera.
Andreas | August 3, 2009 7:12 AM | Reply
What is wrong about informing your readers that Querin Schermeier the author of the Nature article is facing a high court writ in England? Is that not the natural consequence of Nature publishing a defamatory article containing blatant lies fabricated to serve a certain group working in Holland? You love the truth but only your truth? The one which serves your purpose and the purpose of your friends.
محمد النشائي All El Naschie All The Time محمد النشائي