Tuesday, January 5, 2010

FQXi tells Naschie Party to STFU, GTFO

Among the archives we keep, the grand FQXi El Naschie discussion archive preserves http://www.fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/395.

There are other FQXi topics where El Naschie's name arises, but we don't archive those. Here we present a few selected comments from three of those other topics. Some are enlightening or amusing, and some explain what makes /topic/395 so special.


Kavita Rajanna is the FQXi bouncer:

FQXi Administrator Kavita Rajanna wrote on Dec. 5, 2008 @ 13:53 GMT
Please note that off-topic posts will be deleted or moved. The discussion about Mohamed El Naschie that has taken over this forum, has been moved here: http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/395. If you wish to post something further about El Naschie, please do so at this new topic page.


K Rajanna



Here's an El Naschie supporter sucking up to Stephen Wolfram:

Ernie Bohm wrote on Nov. 23, 2009 @ 16:20 GMT
Dear Dr. Wolfram,

As you probably know the establishment was sneering at some of your work as being numerology. Clearly the establishment or at least part of it did not know what they were talking about. Those who have traditionally worked starting from the Lagrangian could not possibly understand the approach of people like Penrose or your good self [Please note. -Ed]. Those poor fellows who spent the better part of their life trying to learn quantum field theory and all the no-go theorems attached to it, are again and again horrified when after a long or short time it is discovered that the no-go theorems do not apply. A very common trait is to confuse number theory with numerology. In this connection I would like to recall the furore which met Mohamed El Naschie’s proposal that the background radiation is connected to a Menger sponge geometry of spacetime. Fifteen years after his proposal the loop quantum mechanics community is suddenly discovering that their theory can be embedded in a Menger sponge. If it were not so sad, it would be really funny. Isn’t that exactly what Mohamed El Naschie proposed and was laughed out of court for by the same community? Will we all ever learn to respect everybody’s point of view? Will we all ever learn from our past mistakes of underestimating people just because they are different? I for one find your last book a different kind of science ["Ernie" got the name of the book wrong. He means A New Kind of Science. Sucking up FAIL -Ed], not only different but magnificent.



Here's one of several courting Garrett Lisi:

David wrote on Jan. 29, 2008 @ 19:56 GMT
Garrett, are you familiar with the work of MS El Naschie? It appears that your TOF [Sic. TOE -Ed] and his work (which for the most part appeared in the Elsevier journal Chaos,Solitons & Fractals) have a lot in common? I would appreciate hearing your opinion.

Lisi delivers a smackdown:

Member A. Garrett Lisi wrote on Mar. 27, 2008 @ 02:51 GMT
A. Pisko and N. Elsfeld:

El Naschie's work looks rather complicated, and I'd just rather not spend a lot of time with it right now. Also, I seem to need to repeat this again:

Please don't post in this thread -- use one of the others for questions or comments. This thread is mostly for posting interview responses. If you post here anyway, I will make fun of you.

It is impressive that your fanaticism overrides respect for my wishes. You aren't perchance also involved with the Ron Paul campaign?

Ron Paul was a marginal presidential candidate in the last US election. His followers are sometimes called Ronulans as a taunt, likening them to Romulans. Garrett Lisi is insulting Pisco and Elsfeld.

A Naschie Party member complains to the bouncer:

S. Marek wrote on Jan. 5, 2009 @ 12:16 GMT
To K. Rajanna

I cannot fully comprehend the true meaning of your message. Questions about the connection between Lisi’s work and that of El Naschie are surely legitimate and are not off-topic. Science does not appreciate segregation nor any form of scientific apartheid or am I misinformed? The work of El Naschie on the transfinite version of E8 is highly interesting particularly because it predicts not only the number of particles which is a relatively simple matter, but also the strength of the couplings. I was taken aback by Lisi’s remark on a less serious blog with the name N-category Café. On this blog Lisi used the abbreviated language of the blogs by saying that El Naschie’s theory is nonsense. Now we have all had enough of these uninformative summary judgements, i.e. trash, garbage, numerology etc. This is not the language of scientists, nor meaningful sentences. Lisi himself was given a very harsh treatment by the establishment and even harsher treatment by some internet mobs. In this sense I would have expected a man of his caliber to refrain from the like. For this reason I am writing these comments on this blog in the hope that Lisi could give us an informative account of his view of El Naschie’s work which preceded his. In particular why is it nonsense as he has laconically remarked on the aforementioned site?

The bouncer is unsympathetic to the relevancy argument:

FQXi Administrator Kavita Rajanna wrote on Jan. 15, 2009 @ 21:21 GMT
Dear S. Marek,

Please note that we moved the El-Naschie discussion even though some comments were partially relevant to this thread, because it strayed completely away from FAQs for Lisi (or even discussion of his work) and grew too large to be contained on this thread.


K Rajanna

Let's give this Naschienal Socialist the last word:

Anonymous wrote on Mar. 1, 2009 @ 07:15 GMT
Professor El Naschie is perhaps the most brilliant person alive. Two of my papers will soon be published in Chaos, Solitons and Fractals due in part to his inspiration and support. Please see 5 of my papers that follow El Naschies's ideas on leonardmalinowski.com.

Len Malinowski

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1 comment:

  1. The last comment on http://www.fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/395.

    Andreas wrote on Feb. 13, 2010 @ 17:52 GMT

    Morsy you do not know how right your comments are. The repetition of the science magazine Nature is mud. Some now call it Nature defamation weekly. They are levied by the negative propaganda they have in Egypt. They are receiving insults in Egyptian press on a daily basis. There is nothing they can do except suing El Naschie in Egypt. That would be the day for Mohamed El Naschie. McMillan may have billions but this will count virtually as nothing compared to El Naschie's connections in Egypt. What a bunch of idiots. They editor of chief of Nature must be a real sucker. One of his editors Querein Schermeier took him for a ride. Or did he? Who knows. It may be all due to Ahmed Zewail. The connection between Hany Helal and Elsevier and the money which changed hands. Only time will tell. I am thrilled to see the end of this idiotic saga.

    It seems from the tone of this comment that El naschie lost his suit against nature.
    Notice this
    "There is nothing they can do except suing El Naschie in Egypt. That would be the day for Mohamed El Naschie. McMillan may have billions but this will count virtually as nothing compared to El Naschie's connections in Egypt."