Wednesday, February 24, 2010

Three Godwins and you're out

Vituperative Naschienal Socialists making the argument of last resort.


STRIKE 1. On Martial Culture:

Gerhard
February 22, 2010 at 9:11 am

If it pleases you Jason, Mohamed has moved from the here to the hereafter. That would not mean he is dead. In fact you are the one who is really dead. Your conscience is dead. Your morality never existed in the first place and your brain ceased to function God knows how long ago. Compared to you Elvis Presley is a truly dead person ……. One day very soon you will be envying Salman Rushdie in his hey days. [When he was under death threat from fatwa. So I guess this is a violence threat with plausible deniability.] Don’t get worried, you are a stylish thug. I am sure this gives you food for thought and inspiration for further perverted phrases, pictures and ideas. One thing got me worried which is the considerable deterioration in your English. You have three styles. That imitating John Baez and I must admit he is the one with the best English between your three alter egos. The second style is that of Martin Klicken. Although it is written, you can hear the thick German accent of Die Zeit’s pseudo editor Christoph Drosser similar only to those we hear in Colditz [o_O]. Finally there is this ridiculous English of the Egyptian Said. Every word written recently on your blog sounds like this poor soul who was never ever able to speak English properly although he was a fugitive in the States for a considerable amount of time evading a three year hard labor sentence in Egypt. One hell of a company you have for yourself Jason. By the way, perhaps you like to tell us all your home address and your educational background, if any.


Martin's answer and English translation:

Martin Klicken
February 22, 2010 at 11:37 pm

Gerhard schrieb:
“The second style is that of Martin Klicken. Although it is written, you can hear the thick German accent of Die Zeit’s pseudo editor Christoph Drosser similar only to those we hear in Colditz.”

Hallo Gerhard,
Sie waren in Colditz? Das ist ja erstaunlich. Erinnert Sie jedes deutsche Wort an Ihre Erlebnisse in Colditz? Das tut mir sehr leid, aber es scheint Ihr höchstpersönliches Problem zu sein. Und es sagt mit Sicherheit sehr viel mehr über Sie persönlich aus, als über die Personen, die Sie hier so verzweifelt anzugreifen versuchen.
Schreiben Sie doch mal ein wenig über sich, Ihre Adresse und Ihren Hintergrund. Das wäre sicher auch interessant. Und schauen Sie gerne mal im El Naschie Watch Blog vorbei, wir würden uns sehr über Ihren Besuch freuen.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Martin Klicken

Gerhard wrote:
"The second style is that of Martin Klicken. Although it is written, you can hear the thick German accent of Die Zeit’s pseudo editor Christoph Drosser similar only to those we hear in Colditz."

Hi Gerhard,
You were in Colditz? That's remarkable. Does each and every word of German you hear bring back your experiences from Colditz? I'm very sorry for you, but that appears to be your own emotional problem.
And for sure it says much more about you personally than about the people you try to attack here so desperately.
Why not write some more about yourself, your address and your background? That would be interesting too. And please feel invited to stop by the El Naschie Watch Blog. We would be very happy to welcome you there.

Sincerely,
Martin Klicken



STRIKE 2. On Welle::erd.ferkel:

#18 - Simone 2010-02-15 15:44 - (Reply)
For several reasons I must update you about El Naschie. The Helmholz [sic] Inst in Germany experimentally discovered that the golden mean is the basis of quantum mechanics. This is experimental confirmation of El Naschie’s theory. This theory encompasses two fundamental things. First you have a Hausdorff dimension equal to the golden mean for the building blocks of spacetime. These building blocks are random Cantor sets. Each elementary Cantor set possesses the golden mean as a Hausdorff dimension. The second thing is an overall symmetry identical to that of an E8 exceptional Lie group. This Lie group is slightly fuzzy. The dimension of this group is not exactly 248 but a slightly lower value due to transfinite corrections. Mohamed El Naschie is the first to find these two fundamental facts. Based on these two facts he developed a beautiful theory for spacetime at the quantum level. It is only in such golden mean geometry and topology that we can resolve the two slit experiment with quantum particle in a logically satisfying way. These are the scientific facts. Everything else is noise created by those who cannot accept the truth and want to live in a world of fiction designed to suit their unbalanced psyche which reminds of those who were ruling the Third Reich [o_O].


Response from Rictus:

#18.1 - Rictus said:
2010-02-15 20:10 - (Reply)

Godwin! You lose.


By the way, while you're there, you'll also notice a commenter named I. Aref who is angry at Martin's work on the Pecunia non Olet affair we wrote about recently

to whom Martin responds

#20.1 - Martin Klicken said:
2010-02-22 15:52 - (Reply)

Sehr geehrter Herr I. Aref,

vielen Dank für Ihren Beitrag. In der Tat habe ich die Vermutung geäußert, dass Herr El Naschie dem Förderverein Geld gegeben hat, vor oder nach seiner Ernennung zum Ehrenmitglied. Schließlich ist ein Förderverein dazu da, Geld zu sammeln, was denken Sie? Warum sollte ein Mensch zum Ehrenmitglied eines Fördervereins avancieren, wenn nicht durch finanzielle Zuwendungen, die er diesem macht? So denke ich, ist meine Vermutung sehr naheliegend und ich hoffe, dass Sie davon absehen können, hier eine böswillige Unterstellung oder gar Verleumdung zu erkennen.
Sie schreiben weiterhin, dass Jason und ich jenseits der Grenze des Erträglichen stinken würden. Und der Grund für unsere Recherchen auf Rassenhass und Neid (die Nennung von Eifersucht schreibe ich einfach mal Ihren mangelnden Sprachkenntnissen zu) gründet. Diese Unterstellungen und Beleidigungen sind natürlich so unverschämt und weit hergeholt, wie die anderen Lügen und Hetzschriften, die Sie in den Kommentaren vieler Foren und unter einer Vielzahl von falschen Namen verfassen. Sie sehen doch, dass unser Blog ein strahlendes Beispiel für ein internationales Forum ist. Wir übersetzen Texte zwischen dem Englischen, Arabischen und Deutschen und anderen Sprachen hin und her, um die Grenzen ein Stück weit aufzuheben und Informationen austauschen zu können. Es ist sehr abwegig, uns Rassenhass zu unterstellen. Personen wie Sie sind es, die durch Ihre hetzerischen Schutzbehauptungen Verwirrung stiften und Schaden anrichten können. Zu welchem Preis? Das Ego und die Lebenslüge des Hr. El Naschie zu verteidigen. Ich denke, Sie sollten in sich gehen und noch einmal überdenken, ob dieser Preis hoch genug ist, Ihre Formulierungen zu rechtfertigen.
Schreiben Sie doch gerne einmal hier Ihren richtigen Namen und in welcher Verbindung Sie zu Hr. El Naschie stehen, dass Sie glauben, sich so beleidigend und verleumderisch äußern zu dürfen.
Zu den weiteren Verleumdungen, die Sie in Ihrem Kommentar machen, werden wir uns gerne nochmal im Blog äußern:
http://elnaschiewatch.blogspot.com/
Schauen Sie doch mal vorbei! Wir werden nichts löschen und Sie dürfen dort gerne zur Diskussion beitragen. Wir würden uns freuen, Sie dort begrüßen zu dürfen.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Martin Klicken

Dear Mr. I. Aref,

Thank you for your contribution. Indeed I expressed the assumption that Mr. El Naschie gave money to the friends association, before or after his becoming an honorary member. After all, a friends association is for raising funds, what do you think? For what reason should a person be knighted as a honorary member of a friends association, if not for the grants he's giving to the association? That's why I think my assumption is rather obvious and suggests itself, and you can refrain from seeing a malicious allegation or even defamation in it.

You also write that Jason and I stink "beyond endurance". And the reason for our investigations is racial hatred and envy; calling it "jealousy" I attribute to your not so fine grasp of the language. These allegations and insults are of course as impertinent and far-fetched as the other lies and inflamatory screeds you authored in the comments of many boards under a variety of false names. Can't you see, our blog is a shining example of an international forum! We translate texts between the English, Arabic, German and other languages, to lift the borders a little and exchange information. It is absurd to accuse us of racial hatred. It is people like you that do that with your self-serving agitprop. You create confusion and may cause harm. To what end? To protect the ego of Mr. El Naschie, himself living a lie. I think you should engage in serious soul-searching and reconsider whether that benefit is high enough to justify the formulations you use here.

Please feel free to write your real name here once, and what connection you have to Mr. El Naschie, that you think you can utter such insulting and defamatory statements here. We will gladly say something to the other detractions you make in your comment in our blog:
http://elnaschiewatch.blogspot.com
Feel free to check that place out! We will never delete a thing and you are invited to contribute to the discussion. We would be happy to welcome you there.

Sincerely,
Martin Klicken



STRIKE3. On Thilo Kuessner's Mathlog:

Annonymous· 22.02.10 · 21:34 Uhr

Now you are issuing threats in the name of the German jurisdiction and courts? Very interesting to see Germany at least in the form of the master of this blog returning to old historical habits. What did Herr Hitler [o_O] used to say? Mr. Benisch is a quarrelsome neighbor. That is how he moved into Checzslovakia bringing it back to the Reich. You are over estimating your size blog master and the size of your home grown Hamburg court. Yes please bring me into trouble with your court and you will see who will get trouble. Incidentally I do not know Mohamed El Naschie and I do not know you but from what you write, I can see that your picture adorning the beginning of this blog fits perfectly to what you represent. Salute!


There are responses from me, Thilo, Martin... The thread shows no sign of petering out, so have a look. PROTIP: When I check Mathlog, I always look in four places:

For completeness, here's Godwin's Law.

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