Could there be a rivalry with El Naschie? That would explain why Nottale isn't a member of the shadowy Brotherhood.
The photo was taken in El Naschie's back yard in Surrey.
Zahy points to new comments in FQXi-395, which has been silent for six months. To jump directly to the latest comments in our archive, click here.
This is interesting:
Sylvain Poirier links to El Naschie Watch. We get clicks from there. He has a page criticizing Nottale: Critique de la relativité d'échelle de Laurent Nottale.
There are Wikipedia pages for Laurent Nottale and his theory of Scale Relativity. (To me it seems insane to have those but not have El Naschie and E-infinity theory articles. Both are crackpots but El Naschie is more famous.)
If you look at the Scale Relativity talk page, you'll see Poirier has left scathing commentary:
Scale relativity theory has no recognized value among physicists. Its reputation in France was roughly reduced to a mere mediatic phenomenon made by some popular science journals, spreading the myth of a genial discoverer... This myth was based on the fact that Nottale's writing ways made it practically impossible to criticize his ideas, because... his empty "theory" was a mere game of introductions and announcements, that did not present any precise idea that could be a matter of criticism. In other words, it seemed like "not even false". The few scientists that tried to examine what it was about, just gave up because there was nothing to understand there. So it required some courage and time to find and write down any concrete reason to disagree, in order to put any stop to the mediatic worship of this assumed misunderstood genius, which mosts scientists won't bother doing as soon as they noticed there was nothing interesting for physics to see there. Years ago I developed this criticism in French. I'm sorry I did not translate it into English, and I have myself other more important things to do in life than to work on this translation. Some other physicists approved my remarks, but of course as usual they did not take the time and risks to work further on explanations or to make any public mentions on this subject. Since I developed this criticism fully enough, which then appeared for years among the first few google results on "Nottale" or "Relativité d'échelle" (the French for "scale relativity), no defender of Scale Relativity had anything effective to reply but they just gave up or kept silent (except one that published back a lot of insults but nothing concrete); the mediatic enthusiasm in France for Nottale's ideas stopped, and it did not interest anybody anymore.
I'm sorry to see more people still waste their time with this non-theory, just because they did not yet examine the deep contents to see themselves that it is empty (if they know physics well enough for this, of course) and because they don't understand French. All what I can offer you now, apart from my references page in French that includes some English links, is this recent little mention about Nottale [Dead link. Go here instead] linking to my criticism.
One more thing: why did not this article link to the French equivalent ? To not let visitors be aware of the bad reputation of this "theory" in France, through the inclusions of the criticism motives to the French version of the article that nobody dared to edit away ? Okay, I'll do this now. --Spoirier (talk) 00:33, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
I think there may actually be rivalry between El Naschie and Nottale, no kidding.
Here is a very relevant PDF in French. It's mostly about Nottale, but El Naschie comes up as well, and there are hints of a rivalry.
Vincent Bontems et Yves Gingras: De la science normale à la science marginale. Analyse d'une bifurcation de trajectoire scientifique : le cas de la Théorie de la Relativité d'Échelle
Unfortunately the document's security settings prevent me from hosting it on Scribd.