Sunday, November 21, 2010

The father and the son

Redaktion drills and hits a nerve.


RelativKritisch

By far the best Rössler action since our last roundup is on RelativKritisch.

Otto Rössler wants his father (also named Otto) to be remembered as a Jew. In fact the father was an enthusiastic National Socialist from day one. The merciless Redaktion smacks down the pretense with such brisance that one almost feels sorry for our own younger Otto. The E-infinity group member smarts so badly that he shows up to defend himself. His is one of 38 comments so far!

Redaktion shows in a graphic that Otto Eberhard Rössler pestered Israeli Prime Ministers Sharon and Olmert, using the name Emmanuel instead of Eberhard to sound more Jewish.

Rössler calls Redaktion's blog fascistic. Defiantly, he asks why he can't be a Jew. Another commenter obliges him by explaining why not in legalistic detail. Our reader-contributor is more terse:

Perhaps there is a similar reason for this as to why Rössler's first name is Eberhard and not Emmanuel.

Rössler claims that connections in the Israeli secret service, the Mossad, told him his father was harmless. A commenter named Hansi rebuffs that as nonsense, and says of the father:

Mr. Rössler worked in the Division VII B 1 b of the Reich Security Main Office. This division created the scientific basis for the work of Eichmann.

It is likely that Mr. Rössler was senior, and like his colleagues in this institute, involved in the deportation of Hungarian Jews to Auschwitz.

That information comes from this PDF in German, linked by commenter Benni in RelativKritisch's Forum Alpha Centauri.

Marc Fasnacht, the proprietor of Rössler's favorite blog, Achtphasen, shows up to make a fleeting but desultory defense of poor Otto, whose implausible story is that his father worked against the Third Reich from the inside, and told him on his death bed that he was Jewish.

Redaktion's latest blog post in German: Otto E. Rössler – Die Vergangenheit, deren Entsorgung und der „Jud“

Google's English translation: Otto E. Rössler - The past, the disposal and the "Jew"

The Forum Alpha Centauri discussion thread for Redaktion's blog post has taken on a life of its own. Two full pages and growing. That's in addition to the 38 comments! Original German or Google's English translation.


Achtphasen

There are a couple of new posts from Rössler on Achtphasen. They are not quite up to his usual standards for entertainment value.

  • 18 November 2010
Rössler summarizes in a few brief phrases why he thinks there is no Hawking radiation, which would mean the tiny black holes would not evaporate, and would therefore swallow the earth. He challenges various people to have a discussion about it, including Stephen Hawking.

Original German: Es ist ein merkwürdiges Gefühl, mitsamt Familie öffentlich in Sippenhaft genommen zu werden -

Google's English translation: It's a strange feeling, publicly to be made guilty by association, together with family -

  • 17 November 2010
Planetary Hilarity - "Honey I shrunk the earth" - Explained to the World's Press, in English, contains not one quote funny enough to showcase, despite its promising title.



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42 comments:

  1. I have found the famous rössler paper:

    Clifford Algebra Applied to Arnold Schwarzenegger

    by Walter Ratjen *) & Otto E. Rössler *)

    Abstract accepted for Tucson 2004

    on the net. See:

    http://web.archive.org/web/20050323190245/www.consciousness.de/Arnie.htm

    or

    http://www.relativ-kritisch.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=47138#47138

    in case someone wants to delete this....

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  2. fullquote of it:



    Clifford Algebra Applied to Arnold Schwarzenegger

    by
    Walter Ratjen *)
    &
    Otto E. Rössler *)


    *) Institut für Theoretische Chemie, Universität Tübingen, Auf der Morgenstelle 8, 72076 Tübingen, Germany

    Abstract accepted for Tucson 2004
    home Printversion enlarge March 12th, 2004

    In his movie "Last Action Hero" Arnold Schwarzenegger performs in the double part of playing himself and the action movie hero "Jack Slater." Magically, the two levels of reality, everyday life and virtual reality, are exchanged when Jack Slater steps through the canvas screen into real life and Arnold Schwarzenegger disappears through the same interface into movie reality, thus gaining invulnerability and immortality. Both figures, Arnold Schwarzenegger as well as Jack Slater, feature the same mentality, i.e. they possess human consciousness and intelligence and act effectively in their environment, the real one and the virtual one, respectively. Both "persons" are deadly sure of their reality being universal, i.e. being the single one at all in existence.

    Investigating into the possibility of turning that movie into reality, i.e. of creating a reality parallel to the existing one, the first concern is that this possibility would violate the law of the conservation of energy. Instead of quitting at this point, we ask if the mathematics needed to get the task accomplished is available or rather needs to be developed. In other words we ask if mathematics is complete, and if this question of completeness is decidable. Our method of studying these questions is by operationalizing them, a method that has proven so overwhelmingly useful in putting psychology on scientific grounds.

    Operationalization calls for a stubborn conviction in the feasability of the task at hand, and thus we believe heuristically in the ultimate realizability of "Jack Slater." Our optimism is nourished by the non-Euclidean geometries developed by William Kingdon Clifford in an anticipation of general relativity in the 19th century. Clifford himself condensed the Clifford-Klein-spaces into his idea of "mind-stuff." This is the essence of the "Schwarzenegger phenomenon," as we would like to call the combination of intelligence and curvatured surfaces with the latter being the material substrate of the former.

    This implies that the mental attractor is of a fractal and non-Euclidean nature. The attractor is conjectured to be related to the "transfinite theory of matter" proposed by elNaschi and Finkelstein (on the occasion of the recent scientific symposium held at the Center for Art and Media ("Media Lab") at Karlsruhe, Germany, in honour of elNaschi's 60th birthday.) We hypothesize a "rectification mechanism" at work in short term memory amenable to algebraic treatment in the same space-theoretic spirit. Implementing it into a computer intelligence could lead to the manipulatability of the arrow of time by the mind as a by-product. Thus, consciousness ("mental attractor"), matter ("transfinite theory"), and brain theory ("rectification mechanism") are assessed from the same realm of mathematics, non-Euclidean geometry. For J.O.R.

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  3. new articles of Rössler on achtphasen:

    http://www.achtphasen.net/index.php/plasmaether/2010/11/18/sind_die_unten_im_schwerefeld_aufsteigen#comments

    contains now a large discussion where Rössler is debunked with elementary logic. Rössler has not much to say against the arguments of the debunker.

    However, in the new article
    http://www.achtphasen.net/index.php/plasmaether/2010/11/24/neophobic_appositional_science_german_re

    he is obviously very upset because of this discussion. As a pure crank, rössler does still not admit his errors, of course.

    This here is a newly discovered old homepage of Rössler:

    http://www.consciousness.de/chaos-rossler/

    apparently, it contains links to another homepage:

    http://www.planetocaust.de/

    One sees, that rössler has used the holocaust relativizing term "planetocaust" that compares the LHC experiment to the holocaust, for some years now.

    http://www.consciousness.de/planetocaust/Planetocaust.htm

    Rössler even created a new entry about his term "planetocaust" in googles wikipedia alternative google knol:

    http://knol.google.com/k/anonym/planetocaust/2o9f9po759jgf/1#

    I did not know before, that Rössler used google knol to spread out his holocaust relativization.

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  4. rösslers new article:

    http://www.achtphasen.net/index.php/plasmaether/2010/11/24/neophobic_appositional_science_german_re

    also says that El naschie had accepted papers of Rössler in CSF but they were not printed as El Naschie was fired just right before he could send the rössler papers to print.

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  5. Here is an interesting term that rössler coined to compare the LHC experiment with the holocaust:

    Planetocaust:

    http://www.consciousness.de/planetocaust/Planetocaust.htm

    http://www.consciousness.de/chaos-rossler/

    http://www.planetocaust.de/

    Rössler even wrote an entry in googles wikipedia alternative google knol about that:

    http://knol.google.com/k/anonym/planetocaust/2o9f9po759jgf/1#

    which means he just abused google knol for his relativization of the holocaust.

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  6. [quote]
    also says that El naschie had accepted papers of Rössler in CSF but they were not printed as El Naschie was fired just right before he could send the rössler papers to print.
    [/quote]

    I think you did not get the point of this entirely. Rössler suggests clearly that El Naschi was fired BECAUSE he had accepted this crackpot-paper.

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  7. Thank you everyone. Please keep it coming.

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  8. brand new Rössler text:

    Rössler has a new phd student who works on a doctorate thesis whose topic is rösslers crackpot stuff in thermodynamics and cosmology.

    Attached below his new achtphasen posting is a letter where Rössler applies for funding from the DFG (Deutsche Forschungsgemeinschaft). In this letter, Rössler also tells the story how long he has worked on this topic: Apparently, Rössler worked on this crazy things since 1961.

    http://www.achtphasen.net/index.php/plasmaether/2010/11/27/kryodynamik_eine_revolution_in_der_kosmo

    In this new article

    http://www.achtphasen.net/index.php/plasmaether/2010/11/27/telemach_eine_revolution_in_der_metrolog

    Rössler repeats his nonsense about a mass and charge change due to relativity.

    Rössler also misleadingly calls the result of general relativity that length scales depend on the gravitational field and the reference frame of the observer who measures those lengths of other objects in spacetime, his own.

    However, this is not Rössler's result. Theinterpretation of the gravitational field as a geometrical metric of spacetime is the very idea of general relativity theory. It must be attributed solely to Einstein.

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  9. brand new Rössler text:

    Rössler has a new phd student who works on a doctorate thesis whose topic is rösslers crackpot stuff in thermodynamics and cosmology.

    Attached below his new achtphasen posting is a letter where Rössler applies for funding from the DFG (Deutsche Forschungsgemeinschaft). In this letter, Rössler also tells the story how long he has worked on this topic: Apparently, Rössler worked on this crazy things since 1961.

    http://www.achtphasen.net/index.php/plasmaether/2010/11/27/kryodynamik_eine_revolution_in_der_kosmo

    In this new article

    http://www.achtphasen.net/index.php/plasmaether/2010/11/27/telemach_eine_revolution_in_der_metrolog

    Rössler repeats his nonsense about a mass and charge change due to relativity.

    Rössler also misleadingly calls the result of general relativity that length scales depend on the gravitational field and the reference frame of the observer who measures those lengths of other objects in spacetime, his own.

    However, this is not Rössler's result. Theinterpretation of the gravitational field as a geometrical metric of spacetime is the very idea of general relativity theory. It must be attributed solely to Einstein.

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  10. new rössler articles:

    Apparently, he has a new phd student and wants funding from dfg on his crackpot stuff:

    http://www.achtphasen.net/index.php/plasmaether/2010/11/27/kryodynamik_eine_revolution_in_der_kosmo

    Here is a another new article where he repeats again his relativity crackpot stuff:

    http://www.achtphasen.net/index.php/plasmaether/2010/11/27/telemach_eine_revolution_in_der_metrolog

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  11. >>he has a new phd student

    OMG

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  12. He also has postet a new answer on

    http://www.achtphasen.net/index.php/2010/11/13/otto_e_rossler_university_of_tubingen_th#c5046

    where he relativizes the holocaust again. He writes:

    Otto rössler wrote:
    : Nur, wer absolut sicher ist, dass CERN gegenwärtig das präzedenzlose Verbrechen der bewussten Inkaufnahme der möglichen Erdauslöschung betreibt, kann sagen: "Ihr seid genauso schlimm wie die Nazis",
    end quote

    translated:

    Otto Rössler wrote:
    Only soneone who is absolutely sure that cern has accepted the crime of destroying the earth, a crime that has no precedence, can say: You are as bad as were the national socialists.
    end quote.

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  13. He also has postet a new answer on

    http://www.achtphasen.net/index.php/2010/11/13/otto_e_rossler_university_of_tubingen_th#c5046

    where he relativizes the holocaust again. He writes:

    Otto rössler wrote:
    : Nur, wer absolut sicher ist, dass CERN gegenwärtig das präzedenzlose Verbrechen der bewussten Inkaufnahme der möglichen Erdauslöschung betreibt, kann sagen: "Ihr seid genauso schlimm wie die Nazis",
    end quote

    translated:

    Otto Rössler wrote:
    Only soneone who is absolutely sure that cern has accepted the crime of destroying the earth, a crime that has no precedence, can say: You are as bad as were the national socialists.
    end quote.

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  14. He also has postet a new answer on

    http://www.achtphasen.net/index.php/2010/11/13/otto_e_rossler_university_of_tubingen_th#c5046

    where he relativizes the holocaust again. He writes:

    Otto rössler wrote:
    : Nur, wer absolut sicher ist, dass CERN gegenwärtig das präzedenzlose Verbrechen der bewussten Inkaufnahme der möglichen Erdauslöschung betreibt, kann sagen: "Ihr seid genauso schlimm wie die Nazis",
    end quote

    translated:

    Otto Rössler wrote:
    Only soneone who is absolutely sure that cern has accepted the crime of destroying the earth, a crime that has no precedence, can say: You are as bad as were the national socialists.
    end quote.

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  15. in this answer Rössler also writes:

    Rössler wrote
    Jeder, der behauptet, dass dies zu sagen "Antisemitismus" wäre, ist beweisbar Antisemit. Das ist keineswegs eine Beschimpfung von meiner Seite aus, sondern ein beweisbares Faktum.
    end quote

    Anyone who claims saying this would be anti-semitic, is a provable anti-semitist.

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  16. In his article

    http://www.achtphasen.net/index.php/plasmaether/2010/11/27/kryodynamik_eine_revolution_in_der_kosmo

    Rössler also describes how he is doing this relativity and statistical physics crackpot stuff since 1961 as he was only at the age of 21..

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  17. new rössler article:

    http://www.achtphasen.net/index.php/plasmaether/2010/11/29/antwort_an_bernhard_umlauf_den_ersten_zu

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  18. Rössler has written two new articles:
    one here:
    http://www.achtphasen.net/index.php/plasmaether/2010/12/06/otto_e_rossler_merry_science_accepting_a

    and a second here:

    http://www.achtphasen.net/index.php/2010/12/09/p1888

    The last paper is written by rössler and a former doctorate student of him (who has currently no affiliation, even if rösslers paper claims otherwise). In his article, rössler states:

    otto rössler wrote:
    Bemerkung: Wir haben die Absicht, dieses einfache Paper zum Gebrauch von jederfrau auf Wikipedia zu stellen. Damit niemand mehr sagen kann, die Tübinger Resultate hätten keine experimentellen Folgen.
    end quote.

    translation:

    Otto rössler wrote:
    We have the intention to put this easily readable paper for use by any woman on wikipedia.

    As a result, no one can claim the Tübingen results would have no experimental consequences.
    end quote.

    Apparently, Rössler is a wikipedia spammer now. I'm interested when he tries to submit this stuff and how long it then will take on wikipedia for rösslers crackpot texts to be deleted. The time it takes to delete rössler's postings seems to be a new kind of quality measure for wikipedia,

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  19. rössler has now translated his article to english

    http://www.achtphasen.net/index.php/plasmaether

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  20. rösslers english translation contains a new reference to a crackpot article by him that was not mentioned before in any watchblog:


    O.E. Rossler and C. Giannetti, “Cession, twin of action” (La cesión: hermana gemela de la acción).
    In: Arte en la era electronica (ed. by C. Giannetti), Barcelona: Associación de Cultura Temporánia L’Angelot, and Goethe-Institut Barcelona 1997, p.124.

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  21. this crackpot reference has lead me to a document that claims to be a "complete bibliography" of rösslers works:

    www.wissensnavigator.com/documents/RosslerBibliography.pdf

    perhaps one can find interesting things there, e.g. the time, when rössler got insane, and other things. But I did not have looked at it yet...

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  22. fucking hell, this document lists 399 "publications" of rössler in scientific journals. And from their title allone, i believe, that one can say 90% of those papers are fringe and crackpot material. It is not, that the problematic papers begin at some later time. The papers are problematic since the beginning!. Even the first dated coupe of rösslers papers are clearly fringe material.

    jason, can you copy this pdf


    www.wissensnavigator.com/documents/RosslerBibliography.pdf

    that it can not get lost?

    If rösslers case is ever evaluated by a comission against scientific misconduct, it is the publications of him that matter. And the linked pdf contains an interesting list of papers by rössler that are not all listed in electronic archives.

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  23. Wonderful! Thank you. And Shrink emailed me a couple of good links so we shall have plenty to post about.

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  24. He has at least one well-known contribution
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rossler_attractor

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  25. Even a blind hen sometimes finds a grain of corn.

    According to the publication list at


    www.wissensnavigator.com/documents/RosslerBibliography.pdf

    most of Rössler's work is, unfortunately, fringe material.

    This even begins in his earliest days at the max planck society.

    This here was, what he did at that institute appart from his ordinary phd thesis work:

    to quote the publication list:
    1966:
    "Theoretical Biology" [Theoretische Biologie). Lecture held at the .Max
    Planck Institute fur Verhaltensphysiologie, Seewiesen 1966)

    The principle of self-inhibition of energy dissipation far from equilibrium is introduced
    with examples, as an explanation of the origin of life, not only on the earth. necessary evolutionary properties of brains can also be predicted."

    end quote.


    No. From energy dissipation can not follow anything about evolutionary properties of brains. Now this fringe material of rössler seems to be connected with the publication:

    quote:
    "A system theoretic model of biogenesis"
    Z. Naturforsch. 26 b, 741-746.
    A reaction-kinetic implementation of the principle of self-inbibition of energy dissipation is indicated, The remit is an "autocatalysis of autocatalyses." It occurs in a large dass of spontaneously forming, far-from-equilibrium soups.
    end quote.

    Any model of "biogenesis " that is claimed to occur in "a large clas of spontaneously forming, far from equilibrium soups" clearly is against experimental evidence.

    If biogenesis would occur in "a large class of spontaneously forming soups", which is what rössler claims in his earliest paper, there would certainly be much more diverse forms of life on earth than there are today.

    Furthermore it would be easy to reproduce the conditions for the emergence of life in the laboratory.

    All experimental evidence says, that biogenesis can only happen in very specific conditions. There must be a very complex interplay between specific molecules and structures before lifeforms and any kind of biogenesis can emerge.

    A publication like that of rössler, claiming that biogenesis and the origin of life could be found in "a large class of spontaneously forming soups" is clearly against all biological and chemical evidence.

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  26. Excellent, excellent. The next Rössler post will be huge.

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  27. > most of Rössler's work is, unfortunately, fringe material.

    Likely correct, but it is necessary to be careful with the specific examples above: there is a difference between being crackpot (as he is currently) and being simply misguided or wrong, or perhaps even very creative without access to subsequent experiment.

    > No. From energy dissipation can not follow anything about evolutionary properties of brains.

    Not entirely: understanding how brains evolved to ensure energy dissipation is a legitimate research topic (though searching for "energy dissipation" and "evolution of brain" does turn up more fringe material than not).

    > is clearly against all biological and chemical evidence

    but this was in the 1960s, the Urey-Miller experiments were done in the 1950's, and are still not entirely understood (reanalyzed in 2008, Science 322, 404).

    Early on, he appeared to be on the edge, and could have been a contender, but apparently kept missing and eventually went over the edge.

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  28. you write:
    Not entirely: understanding how brains evolved to ensure energy dissipation
    end quote.

    But this is not what rössler wants to do in the articles that I quoted.

    In the material that I quoted, rössler brings up some general chemical and physical principles that hold in "a large class of soups", like energy dissipation, and then Rössler wants to explain the "origin of life", or "evolutionary properties of brains" from basic principles, like "energy dissipation".

    This is simply fringe material and nothing else.

    The point here is, that those early claims by rössler are essentially similar to the ones now.

    In this early papers, rössler makes just the claim to be able to explain the origin of life and the evolution of brains.

    And rössler claims to explain those remarkable things with principles that are common to "a large class of spontaneously forming soups" and general physical principles like "energy dissipation".

    Even in this early stage, rössler's works are based on bold claims, only supported by vague words and incomplete theories.

    anonymous, you wrote:
    the Urey-Miller experiments were done in the 1950's
    end quote:

    But even the fluids in the Urey Miller experiments do not belong to a "large class of spontaneously forming soup".

    What Urey Miller did was not to simply take some basic soup and look what would happen "spontaneously", as required by Rössler. Urey and miller enforced some intense chemical reaction in that soup with strong electrical fields.

    To explain the origin of life with something that occurs in

    "A large dass of spontaneously forming, far-from-equilibrium soups", as rössler tried to do in his earliest work, is clearly fringe science, and it clearly was fringe science, even in the 1950's.

    Those early claims of rössler are fringe science, since they are in apparent disagreement with experimental evidence.

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  29. In this new article:
    http://www.achtphasen.net/index.php/plasmaether/2010/11/27/kryodynamik_eine_revolution_in_der_kosmo

    rössler explains a bit of his earlier works from 1960 at the max planck society.

    It is notable, that the institute, where rössler worked, has now long been shut down, for it was not giving appropriate scientific results.

    In this text, Rössler basically gives a short summary of the contents of his earliest lectures

    "Theoretical Biology" [Theoretische Biologie). Lecture held at the .Max
    Planck Institute fur Verhaltensphysiologie, Seewiesen 1966)

    and his earliest scientific article:

    "A system theoretic model of biogenesis"
    Z. Naturforsch. 26 b, 741-746.

    and also some other, very early articles of him.

    Rössler writes:

    http://www.achtphasen.net/index.php/plasmaether/2010/11/27/kryodynamik_eine_revolution_in_der_kosmo

    begin quote:

    bin ich 1961 als 21-Jähriger gleichzeitig mit Stuart Kauffman auf ein allgemeines physikalisches Evolutionsprinzip gestoßen, das ich 3 Jahre später im Gespräch mit Carl-Friedrich von Weizsäcker und 2 weitere Jahre später mit Konrad Lorenz ausarbeitete. Es ist eine Theorie mathematisch existierender, aber physikalisch zunächst zum allergrößten Teil unsichtbarer Maschinen. Die Biogenese kann so als “wachsender Automat“ im Sinne von Paul Erdös verstanden werden, wie ich 1974 schrieb und wie Joel Cohen drei Jahre später in New York unabhängig herausfand. Auch nuklearchemisches Leben auf Neutronensternen (wie bei Robert Forward) ist zwingend impliziert. Nur der Mensch wird durch die dabei gefundene “Gehirngleichung“ nicht wie alle anderen Lebewesen deterministisch gesteuert, sondern macht durch einen epigenetischen “Funktionswandel“ im Sinne Robert Rosens funktionell gesehen einen Sprung zum Teilhardschen Punkt Omega, dem Endpunkt der Evolution und dem historisch gesehen ersten Attraktor.

    end quote.

    This can be translated to the following (I'm not particularly good at english, so correct me, if I made mistaktes.)


    begin translation:

    In 1961, as I was 21-year-old, I discovered, at the same time Stuart Kauffman, a universal physical principle of evolution.

    I worked this theory out, at first by talking to Carl-Friedrich von Weizsäcker three years later, and then after two more years of talking to Konrad Lorenz.

    It is a theory of mathematically existing, but physically mostly invisible machines. The biogenesis can be understood as a "growing machine" in the sense of Paul Erdos, as I wrote in 1974, and as Joel Cohen found out independently three years later in New York.

    Even nuclear-chemical life on neutron stars (like in Robert Forward's novels) is necessarily implied.

    Only man is, unlike all the other creatures, not being controlled deterministically, but by a "brain equation".

    Furthermore, man makes an epigenetic "change of function" in the sense of Robert Rosen. Functionally, this is a skip to Teilhard's point Omega, the endpoint of evolution and the historically first attractor.

    end translation

    Well, this is an exact summary of what Rössler "discusses" with more "detail" in the earliest "scientific articles", that Rössler has ever published.

    Unfortunately, it follows from the content of his very earliest publications, that Rössler is not a crackpot since some later time.

    Rössler is a crackpot since the 1960's. And since then, Rössler has constantly tried, and often succeded, to publish fringe and crackpot papers in scientific journals.

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  30. In http://www.achtphasen.net/index.php/plasmaether/2010/11/27/kryodynamik_eine_revolution_in_der_kosmo

    rössler gives an explanation of his early articles and lectures at the max plack society.

    Rössler writes:

    äcker und 2 weitere Jahre später mit Konrad Lorenz ausarbeitete. Es ist eine Theorie mathematisch existierender, aber physikalisch zunächst zum allergrößten Teil unsichtbarer Maschinen. Die Biogenese kann so als “wachsender Automat“ im Sinne von Paul Erdös verstanden werden, wie ich 1974 schrieb und wie Joel Cohen drei Jahre später in New York unabhängig herausfand. Auch nuklearchemisches Leben auf Neutronensternen (wie bei Robert Forward) ist zwingend impliziert. Nur der Mensch wird durch die dabei gefundene “Gehirngleichung“ nicht wie alle anderen Lebewesen deterministisch gesteuert, sondern macht durch einen epigenetischen “Funktionswandel“ im Sinne Robert Rosens funktionell gesehen einen Sprung zum Teilhardschen Punkt Omega, dem Endpunkt der Evolution und dem historisch gesehen ersten Attraktor.


    translation:
    In 1961, as a 21-year-old, I found, at the same time as did Stuart Kauffman, a
    universal physical principle of evolution.

    I worked this theory out 3 years later by talking to Carl-Friedrich von Weizsäcker and
    I finalized it after two more years together with with Konrad Lorenz.

    It is a theory of mathematically existing, but physically, at least for the most part,
    invisible machines.

    According to that theory, Biogenesis can be understood as a "growing machine" in the sense of
    Paul Erdos, as I wrote in 1974, and as Joel Cohen has found independently three years later
    in New York.

    Even nuclear-chemical life on neutron stars (as in Robert Forward's novels) is necessarily
    implied by that theory.

    A brain equation was found, and it could be shown that only humans are, unlike all other
    creatures, not deterministically controlled. Instead, Humans make an epigenetic "change of
    function" in the sense of Robert Rosen. Functionally, this change can be seen as a skip
    towards Teilhard's Omega Point, which is the endpoint of evolution, and was historically
    the first attractor.
    end quote.

    Well, this is a reasonable summary of the content of the material in


    "Theoretical Biology" [Theoretische Biologie). Lecture held at the .Max
    Planck Institute fur Verhaltensphysiologie, Seewiesen 1966)

    and

    "A system theoretic model of biogenesis"
    Z. Naturforsch. 26 b, 741-746.

    as well as some other very early articles of Rössler.

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  31. In http://www.achtphasen.net/index.php/plasmaether/2010/11/27/kryodynamik_eine_revolution_in_der_kosmo

    rössler gives an explanation of his early articles and lectures at the max plack society.

    Rössler writes:

    äcker und 2 weitere Jahre später mit Konrad Lorenz ausarbeitete. Es ist eine Theorie mathematisch existierender, aber physikalisch zunächst zum allergrößten Teil unsichtbarer Maschinen. Die Biogenese kann so als “wachsender Automat“ im Sinne von Paul Erdös verstanden werden, wie ich 1974 schrieb und wie Joel Cohen drei Jahre später in New York unabhängig herausfand. Auch nuklearchemisches Leben auf Neutronensternen (wie bei Robert Forward) ist zwingend impliziert. Nur der Mensch wird durch die dabei gefundene “Gehirngleichung“ nicht wie alle anderen Lebewesen deterministisch gesteuert, sondern macht durch einen epigenetischen “Funktionswandel“ im Sinne Robert Rosens funktionell gesehen einen Sprung zum Teilhardschen Punkt Omega, dem Endpunkt der Evolution und dem historisch gesehen ersten Attraktor.

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  32. translation:
    In 1961, as a 21-year-old, I found, at the same time as did Stuart Kauffman, a
    universal physical principle of evolution.

    I worked this theory out 3 years later by talking to Carl-Friedrich von Weizsäcker and
    I finalized it after two more years together with with Konrad Lorenz.

    It is a theory of mathematically existing, but physically, at least for the most part,
    invisible machines.

    According to that theory, Biogenesis can be understood as a "growing machine" in the sense of
    Paul Erdos, as I wrote in 1974, and as Joel Cohen has found independently three years later
    in New York.

    Even nuclear-chemical life on neutron stars (as in Robert Forward's novels) is necessarily
    implied by that theory.

    A brain equation was found, and it could be shown that only humans are, unlike all other
    creatures, not deterministically controlled. Instead, Humans make an epigenetic "change of
    function" in the sense of Robert Rosen. Functionally, this change can be seen as a skip
    towards Teilhard's Omega Point, which is the endpoint of evolution, and was historically
    the first attractor.
    end quote.

    Well, this is a reasonable summary of the content of the material in


    "Theoretical Biology" [Theoretische Biologie). Lecture held at the .Max
    Planck Institute fur Verhaltensphysiologie, Seewiesen 1966)

    and

    "A system theoretic model of biogenesis"
    Z. Naturforsch. 26 b, 741-746.

    as well as some other very early articles of Rössler.

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  33. I think this is enough to see that rösslers very early research was mostly of a clearly crackpot nature.

    In the document
    http://www.achtphasen.net/index.php/plasmaether/2010/11/27/kryodynamik_eine_revolution_in_der_kosmo

    is even more. for example, rössler connects his early crackpot articles to the things he does now. According to rössler, a new crackpot model of his own, which he calls "cryo-dynamics" will define the physics of the future...



    By the way, he has a new new achtphasen article

    http://www.achtphasen.net/index.php/2010/12/12/liu_and_assange_two_empty_seats_in_front

    and there is a new relativ kritisch article of rössler with a nice video where Rössler gives a reasonable account what his "Endophysics" research program consists of. Very informative is the graph that rössler draws on the flipchart.

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  34. the relativ kritisch article is here:

    http://www.relativ-kritisch.net/blog/lhc-widerstand/otto-e-rossler-der-%E2%80%9Ezerstreute-professor%E2%80%9C-bei-stefan-raab

    In english, rössler says in this video:
    "This interface, eh, between the world and, eh, so to speak, yes, ah, mh, eh eh ff"

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  35. This is an interesting english video of rössler where he talks about science and art.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrNZjwmVbeU&feature=related

    Rössler thinks, apparently, that there is not much difference between science and art.

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  36. This here is also an interesting video where Rössler says at the end into the camera that his black hole physics would not have been disproved:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUzwLYtvEm0

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  37. here is an interviews of rössler in three parts (in german):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuGnRf-3W6M

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2piGLXSp4uk

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig8Gib1o28E

    and this is an interview of Rössler by al-jazeera in english:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvowxSJHlOc#t=03m37s

    nevertheless, the list

    www.wissensnavigator.com/documents/RosslerBibliography.pdf


    of his earliest crackpot articles is most interesting of all, I think.

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  38. Apparently, a comment of mine was eaten by this blogsoftware. The translation in the post

    http://elnaschiewatch.blogspot.com/2010/11/father-and-son.html?showComment=1292289184091#c3305118180789862831

    is a translation from a text excerpt of

    http://www.achtphasen.net/index.php/plasmaether/2010/11/27/kryodynamik_eine_revolution_in_der_kosmo

    In this text that Rössler has sent to the german science foundation, rössler gives a summary of his earliest research articles. The translation is an excerpt of this summary.

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  39. by the way, jason, I think it is time for a new rössler post.

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  40. Yes. Thank you for all the info.

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  41. Rössler has written a new article on his views about cosmology
    http://www.achtphasen.net/index.php/plasmaether/2010/12/14/neocosmology

    He also describes his theory of biogenesis again.

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  42. in this new comment, rössler explains why he does not want to formulate his models in an appropriate mathematical way but instead wants others, e.g. students and doctorates to outwork his cranky illusions precisely:

    http://www.achtphasen.net/index.php/plasmaether/2010/12/09/das_gewicht_des_urkilogramms#c5145

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