Saturday, January 8, 2011

Questions for Gerardo Iovane on his work

Shrink pointed me to LORENZI Marcella Giulia, FRANCAVIGLIA Mauro, and IOVANE Gerardo, The Golden Mean Revisited: From Fidia to the Structure of the "Kosmos", Journal of Applied Mathematics vol 1 (2008), number 2, pp 110-119:


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Would Prof. Iovane please scroll to page 117 and look at the paragraph right above Fig. 10. The Fibonacci numbers F sub n are an increasing sequence, as you know. And the pi function, which is the number of primes not exceeding its argument, is a non-decreasing function. Consequently pi (F sub n) / pi (F sub (n+1)) is less than or equal to one for every n. My question, Prof. Iovane, is how that ratio can have limit Phi = (1 + sqrt 5 )/2 = 1.618... which is greater than 1? And you did mean 1.618... and not its reciprocal 0.618, because you referred to [16] for the definition of Phi. Check [16] for yourself if you like.

Also, you call that ratio "the ratio between the number of Primes [sic] contained between two consecutive Fibonacci numbers". Not only is that wrong mathematically, it doesn't even work as a sentence, because a ratio requires two numbers -- a numerator and a denominator -- and you have specified only one. You will presumably claim you meant the reciprocal of what you wrote, but that will not fix this problem.

Finally on that same page you say

Fig. 10 shows a fractal Universe based on the power law introduced by (GI) and so based on the "Golden Mean".

Figure 10 shows a circle with some swirly colors in it, and is captioned

Fig 10: a fractal universe based on the "Golden Mean" law

Do you think that is an adequate explanation for Fig. 10 in a scholarly article? Where did that picture come from? Who made it? What do the colors represent? Why are there no axes or labels of any kind?

And most importantly of all, I'd like to know why the infamous crackpot and citation scammer Mohamed El Naschie whose pseudoscience you frequently cite with approval, uses the exact same picture as a header decoration on one of his Web sites?




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30 comments:

  1. Prof.Iovane was for me a great teacher, a true master, and today I'm honored to be his colleague and I always root for him.
    Iovane is exemplary of style, class, elegance and kindness, whether on scientific talent are induscusse except those of humans on this blog are really amazing.
    Shame on you to attack people so respectable just because you have not been able to earn a place in the research institution! Prof.Francaviglia is a researcher and an exceptional man of great fame.

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  2. Francesco, are you Francesco Orciuoli, http://sites.google.com/site/fraorc/francescoorciuoli, a colleague of Iovane?

    Well, you are not a mathematician but a computerscientist who describes himself as:

    Francesco wrote:
    My areas of interest are Software Architectures and Platforms for Technology Enhanced Learning and Techniques for Knowledge Management.
    end quote.

    This is a bit remote from mathematics. However, in europe, computerscientists should have at least some basic mathematical knowledge.

    In fact, the good computer scientific articles are often packed full of mathematics and can be regarded as applied mathematics.

    In the above posting, the mathematical content of some of iovanes papers are severely questioned. In fact they are questioned so much that the only conclusion one can draw about iovanes papers is that they are completely wrong and nonsensical.


    Now, in your post, you defend iovane by saying:

    Francesco wrote:
    Iovane is exemplary of style, class, elegance and kindness, whether on scientific talent
    end quote.

    So it seems, you have nothing scientifically to say on that matter.

    But why are you, francesco, then defending iovane, who produces completely wrong results?

    Is it, because you just can not see, even after reading this blogpost, that iovane's articles are wrong?

    It may be that you francesco, are unable to judge, wether the papers of Iovane posted by Jason are nonsense or not.

    In this case, however, the only thing one can conclude is, that your lack of mathematical knowledge is that large, francesco, that it is severely below someone who has managed to pass the examinations in computerscience during his student years.

    In europe, computerscientists must hear some lectures on algebra. And there, it should be taught, what pi (F sub n) / pi (F sub (n+1)) is. It is simply unbelievable, that someone can pass exams in computerscience that fulfill european standards and then still can not compute such simple formulae.

    That is, if you can not judge, wether iovane's papers are wrong, you do not deserve a diploma degree in computerscience, according to the widely accepted european standards.
    However, it seems that francesco is not a student, who somehow slipped through the mathematical exams, he even is a professor of computerscience at this university.

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  3. You call asking legitimate and urgent questions an "attack"? Science should not be about argumentum ad hominem (i.e. "he is a man of great fame -> he can't be wrong"), but considering logic, observations and scientific standards from time to time. Of course it is sad that the above questions have to be asked here, but it's not the fault of the questioner, neither is it an attack. It is a defence of good scientific practice.

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  4. > Traffic Record Broken

    So picking on Iovane brought him out with perhaps three friends and doubled your traffic. So just pick someone with more than ten friends and you could double it yet again. (Problem is that none of these tend to get cited by as many as ten people.)

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  5. Anonymous, you're wrong, again. The hits on El Naschie Watch are not of the order of 10. :-)

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  6. Also, Italy is not responsible for most of the traffic increase.

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  7. Anonymous at January 8, 2011 6:39 AM: Good guess. Francesco is probably Francesco Orciuoli.

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  8. Anonymous January 8, 2011 6:39 AM ,
    You are doing a great job.
    Greeting

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  9. January 8, 2011 6:39 AM is in fact Hansi, our indispensable source for Otto E. Rössler information. Hansi, you should sign "Hansi" instead of "Anonymous". Comment as... Name/URL... and leave the URL field empty.

    Zahy, yes, it was very good detective work indeed, because Hansi did not have access to our visitors log.

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  10. One also should mention the following:

    Often, defenders of Iovane say here in this blog that iovane would be "a nice person" who is "well lied" in italy and "really a golf partner".

    This however, does not imply that Iovane is honest.

    For example, in germany, we had the case of a medical student, who failed her chemistry exam for three times. So, she faked her grade, and continued to study. She completed successfully, and then went on starting her phd.

    After she already had done some work, her clinic asked for one missing document in her qualification. They noted, that she only had submitted copies of her early chemistry exam, and as the font of that copies was not sharp, they wanted the originals now.

    And that was how she eventually got discovered. As she already had done work in a clinic, her case was assesed by a court. Without a degree, every injection she had given, juridically counted as body harm (independend whether it helped or not).

    During the investigation, it came out that her professors, as well as her fellow students noticed her as a very friendly and nice person.

    Moreover, they told the court that she was one of the most engaged and also one of the most competent students they had ever seen.


    In fact, however, this behavior is typical for a fraudster. If, after faking her exam, she would have been a lazy student, or uninvolved, or very unfriendly, her qualification would have been questioned much earlier. If she only had made just one fault during her work, someone would have toroughly checked her degrees and qualifications for sure.

    Someone, who is involved in academic misconduct
    in fact MUST play nicely and be a very friendly person. The more people depend on the fraudster, and are not suspicious the more unlikely is the discovery of the misconduct.


    Scientific misconduct includes the faking of grades or results, as well as the repeated publishing of wrong results and nonsense as it is the case with Iovane, He, Naschie or Rössler.

    That there are people who perceive those fraudsters as nice and gentle persons is just natural. If those cranks would not play nice (at least for some time), their fraud would not have lasted that long.

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  11. jason wrote:
    Zahy, yes, it was very good detective work
    end quote.

    No. Francesco said that he is iovane's colleague. There is just one colleague of Iovane with the name Francesco. Furthermore, I do not believe that a real mathematician could defend iovane. This is simply impossible. So it had to be a colleague, who is not a mathematician.

    You certainly do not need to be sherlok holmes to find out an identity of someone writing under his own name.

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  12. January 8, 2011 11:46 AM: Yes. By the way, Mohamed El Naschie is by all accounts a likeable fellow.

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  13. One point, this paper of iovane, appeared in a journal of applied mathematics. There are many such journals, but it also has the abbreviation applimat. And there is only one journal that has this abbreviation:

    http://journal.aplimat.com/volume_3_2010/index.html

    The paper has a LORENZI Marcella Giulia (Italy) as co-author. And the same person can be seen on the linked page above as being on the editorial board of applimat.

    Furthermore, one should note that applimat is a rather obscure journal produced by:

    Institute of Natural Sciences, Humanities and Social Sciences
    Faculty of Mechanical Engineering
    Slovak University of Technology in Bratislava

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  14. OMFG -- in fact both of Iovane's coauthors are on the editorial board!

    Hansi is too modest about his detective skills.

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  15. the question is, whether most of iovanes work is that obscure. Has someone a more complete publication list of him?

    Are there at least some articles of him that make sense?

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  16. Not considering the quotation of El Naschie theory,what does it have of so cheap this article? I'm not a mathematician and I hope to become an engineer. Also famous scientists often write papers without showing anybody fundamental discovery. With El Naschie you have convinced me, but with Iovane still no. His curriculum is public. I don't believe that he belongs to an important family. Perhaps he didn't deserve his career. However there are so many in the world. I am not able to judge. I have followed one course of prof. Iovane. He has been a good teacher. I swear that I'm not a friend of Iovane. I don't know how to judge his value as researcher. I can testify only that he is a serious teacher. ( Pedro )

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  17. From the article: "Also, you call that ratio "the ratio between the number of Primes [sic] contained between two consecutive Fibonacci numbers". "

    Without having the time to read the papers, maybe the original idea was to look at the ratio of the numbers of primes in the two gaps between three consecutive Fibonacci numbers?

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  18. Prof.Iovane is an honest and pure man. You are wrong! He published more than 150 papers in different fields due to he makes computational and modeling. So you find applications in particle physics, nuclear physics, mechanics of medium, security, image processing and so on. If some models of other researcher are wrong this not means that also Iovane’s modeling or computing is wrong.
    You are doing a very bad scouting work, since you just take paper on a single topic, that is El Naschie, while his production is interdisciplinary and wide due to the “transversality” of applications in which he can applied his models or computing algorithms. Just to give you some example here you find some papers that I found for you.
    1
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleListURL&_method=list&_ArticleListID=1600849995&_sort=r&_st=13&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=59e8abbbdd825e3b6d3ebf0e3610c7b7&searchtype=a
    2
    http://www.springerlink.com/content/y84g4u3052612p50/

    3

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleListURL&_method=list&_ArticleListID=1600855097&_sort=r&_st=13&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=49b29e849c4e6ac4d4a13433ee443492&searchtype=a

    4

    http://mms.sagepub.com/content/12/2/148.abstract

    5

    http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1668513&CFID=4925137&CFTOKEN=56999964

    6

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleListURL&_method=list&_ArticleListID=1600858150&_sort=r&_st=13&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=fb194bdd3056cbf564719477fc5a594f&searchtype=a

    7

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleListURL&_method=list&_ArticleListID=1600860029&_sort=r&_st=13&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=9bdfcce14f4007a4457a52a56d9e1166&searchtype=a

    8 (G.Iovane or Gerardo Iovane)

    http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/quicksearch~db=all?quickterm=iovane&searchtype=

    9

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleListURL&_method=list&_ArticleListID=1600862663&_sort=r&_st=13&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=8757870b7aab2e62407c72f762fab173&searchtype=a

    10

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleListURL&_method=list&_ArticleListID=1600866983&_sort=r&_st=13&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=19a63724f700a8cafa09a25e94b93a81&searchtype=a

    11 (G.Iovane or Gerardo Iovane)

    http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/quicksearch~db=all?quickterm=iovane&searchtype=author
    His expertise is on modeling, simulations and algorithms, he is not a theoretical physics. For this reason he obtained is research position in mathematical-physics, and professorship in mathematical analysis. In his scientific community he is very appreciated as very eclecticism and good scientist. He makes beautiful application in industrial context of security, image processing applied to recognition, decision support systems, and so on and he obtain formal recognition from Italian Institutions.

    He is a Knight of Italian Republic. This is a honor or a recognition given to very honest and pure man which spend time not only for himself but for the State, and people. This prize is given directly by the President of Italian Republic;

    See

    http://www.quirinale.it/elementi/Onorificenze.aspx?pag=0&qIdOnorificenza=&cognome=iovane&nome=gerardo&daAnno=1800&aAnno=2011&luogoNascita=&testo=&ordinamento=OCO_ANNO_DECRETO%20DESC,OCO_MESE_DECRETO%20DESC,OCO_GIORNO_DECRETO%20DESC



    I found this is information for you, since I belive that prof.Iovane does not merit the place and the image that you are giving on your blob. You must distinguish him from other people that you considered in the past and that I do not know.

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  21. You are doing a very bad scouting work, since you just take paper on a single topic, that is El Naschie, while his production is interdisciplinary and wide due to the “transversality” of applications in which he can applied his models or computing algorithms. Just to give you some example here you find some papers that I found for you.

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  26. Martin, if he wanted to count primes between successive Fibonacci numbers, as he said in the quote, expressions like pi(F sub (n+1)) - pi(F sub n) should appear in his papers, but they are nowhere to be found. He is just confused. And this confusion is only an example. His papers have a self-similar fractal property of being confused on every scale at which they are examined. I am talking here only about the papers about primes about which I can write with confidence, but his papers in physics and security are not highly regarded by experts in those fields.

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  27. Anonymous, January 9, 2011 6:01 AM:

    What an impact the two articles under 1! The first one is self-cited in the second one, while the latter is cited exactly O times.

    Your friend has truly made a "paradigm-shift" in the field.

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  28. Furthermore, a quick look in ScienceDirect for Iovane's articles (not published in CSF) reveals that they are self-cited or cited by his friends, e.g., Borysenko.

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  29. Duplicate postings removed.

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