Friday, April 15, 2011

Physics StackExchange on Marek-Crnjac paper

Someone asks the question "Is there a maximum number of types of elementary particles?" E-infinity group member Leila Marek-Cjrnac's paper The maximum number of elementary particles in a super symmetric extension of the standard model, Chaos, Solitons & Fractals, Volume 32, Issue 5, June 2007, Pages 1631-1636 is under discussion.

L. Marek-Crnjac

University of Maribor, Faculty of Mechanical Engineering, Smetanova Ulica 17, SI-2000 Maribor, Slovenia
Accepted 4 September 2006. Available online 5 October 2006.


In a series of papers over the last few years El Naschie addressed the question of the minimum and maximum number of elementary particles which a mathematically consistent and a physically meaning full extended standard model should contain. El Naschie’s minimum is 62 particles namely 60 believed to have been already discovered in addition to one Higgs boson and one graviton which are theoretically needed but are not jet experimentally conformed. By contrast the maximum number of 69 particles is although consistent with many quantum field theories based models as well as a classical result by Dyson may not be the only possibility. In the present work we show that a larger number of 72 or even 84 particles are easily shown to be consistent with super string theory and super symmetry. Our work consists of two parts. The first part is a reappraisal of El Naschie’s results and the second is a derivation of the proposed possibility of an upper bound of 72 or 84 elementary particles.

Several people put in their two cents. Simon points the asker to El Naschie Watch. 4tnemele calls the paper "pure garbage". Mitchell Porter calls El Naschie's E-infinity theory "numerology". He must not know about this other paper by Marek-Crnjac: On the vital difference between number theory and numerology in physics, Chaos, Solitons & Fractals, Volume 38, Issue 5, December 2008, Pages 1239-1242.

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  1. Countdown to sockpuppet carpet bombing of stackexchange...

  2. If only! But the E-infinity group have become chastened and hushed since their glory days on SCIAM and FQXi. They hardly bother defending El Naschie himself anymore. It's very sad.

  3. Hi Jason,
    You should remember that Almansoura university
    had a record in publishing CS&F. Many people there published non sense stuff except they cited the great man.

    Two champions from Almansoura who were used to publish in CS&F, namely S A El-Wakil and M A Abdou, after missing the opportunity of CS&F, they start to steal already published articles and republish them in other journals. But they were caught. Please you can give a look at their story in

    (G'/G)-expansion method equivalent to the extended tanh-function method

    S A El-Wakil^1, M A Abdou^1, E K El-Shewy^1, A Hendi^2 and H G Abdelwahed^1

    1 Theoretical Research Group, Physics Department, Faculty of Science, Mansoura University, 35516 Mansoura, Egypt
    2 Physics Department, Faculty of Science, King Saud University, P O Box 1846, Riyadh 11321, Saudi Arabia

    This paper has been formally retracted on ethical grounds due to the similarity in content, presentation and style to another article published by Liu Chun-Ping in the journal Communications in Theoretical Physics (Chun-Ping 2009 Commun. Theor. Phys. 51 985). It is unfortunate that this was not detected before going to press. Our thanks go to the original author for bringing this fact to our attention.

  4. Guilgood, July 19, 2011. Excellent find! It reminds me of the old days.

  5. And it seems it's only a one-shot post; I haven't found any duplicates elsewhere.