Sunday, June 26, 2011

Rössler attracts vigorous debate

There have been four new posts from Rössler on Lifeboat Foundation since our last visit.


June 13, 2011. Dear Dr. Hawking. Rössler writes an open letter to Stephen Hawking, something he has done before. Rössler supporter Richard Kane appears in the comments, calling Hawking "Hawkins".

June 18, 2011. Five Fateful Coincidences. Rössler gives five reasons why black holes are more dangerous than CERN acknowledges. So far there are 120 reader comments, but for some reason only a couple dozen are visible to me. A reader kindly provides these direct links to the other comments: Page one, page two.

June 20, 2011. Dear Jerusalem – Wake up! Rössler continues pretending to be Jewish. "I herewith ask the Hebrew University to withdraw the honorary doctorate given yesterday to the German minister of science because this minister is responsible for the worst threat to the survival of Israel", he begins. By "threat to the survival of Israel" I believe he means the LHC. There are seven comments.

June 26, 2011. Idiotic Blunder Behind Risked Planet. "The young people are my motivation", he explains. In one of the four comments a Rössler supporter tells him "I am sorry, but currently you give the appearance of a lunatic."


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39 comments:

  1. As for the comments to Five Fateful Coincidences:

    There are three pages of comments, the first two of which are obviously nowhere linked, but they should be reachable at

    http://lifeboat.com/blog/2011/06/five-fateful-coincidences/comment-page-1#comment-86259
    http://lifeboat.com/blog/2011/06/five-fateful-coincidences/comment-page-2#comment-86259

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  2. That works nicely, thanks! Updated.

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  3. It looks like he's intentionally trying to collect as much criticism and abuse as possible, because it makes him look like a martyr to non-experts. I agree that he's not convincing anyone who understands the subject, (certainly not me!!!!!!!!!!!!!), but it could look to a layman like he's being persecuted...which may be why he's doing this in the first place.

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  4. Yes, and his polite self-deprecating manner is intended to make him a sympathetic figure.

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  5. Another AnonymousJune 26, 2011 at 5:41 PM

    Perhaps he thinks that when he becomes the recognized Savior of Earth his blogs will be studied by historians and taught to schoolchildren, so he wants to sound good in them... ;-)

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  6. "In one of the four comments a Rössler supporter tells him 'I am sorry, but currently you give the appearance of a lunatic.'"

    The same person also writes:

    "Please continue your efforts to increase the awareness of potential risks associated with physics experiments. "

    This seems to be the attitude of many (at least more than one) of the people who are generally sympathetic toward Rössler, and it strikes me as interesting, because IMHO it shows a streak of the anti LHC movement, that they would probably rather not like to show.

    Since all of Rössler's efforts are entirely based on his claims of having proven some serious scientific results, and since he has demonstrably no clue what he is talking about, how can he possibly continue with his efforts *without* looking like a lunatic? This makes no sense at all, unless of course these people are less concerned with whether they base their opposition on reasons that *are* sound as opposed to making them *appear* sound. As the second quote hints the most important thing is not truth, but public "awareness" and public relations, or in less euphemistic terms: propaganda. Has this ever been expressed (or at least implied) so clearly before?

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  7. Many of Rössler's supporters oppose not just the LHC but physics experiments generally. Richard Kane for example thinks it's dangerous to approach absolute zero. They adhere to a contemporary variant of Luddism.

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  8. Five Fateful Coincidences has 143 comments now!

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  10. Richard Houston is defending Rössler although he has not understood a single word in 143 comments :D

    Funny people there!

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  11. Five Fateful Coincidences is up to 152 comments. Someone called AnthonyL also is defending Rössler. The comment paging system on that site is broken so here are direct links that should work at least until the system adds a fifth page. Page 1, page 2, page 3, page 4.

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  12. Up to now 173 comments. Rössler is of course not replying to the contradictions or answering any of the open questions.

    in his latest post he is suggesting that Einstein had introduced a kind of absolute time in relativity theory :D

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  13. Up to 186 comments now! Peter Howell is bashing Rössler mercilessly:

    "And again, you are lying in plain sight... I am not wasting anymore time with blubberish nonsense from you... As to Lifeboat: I was always a curious visitor to your site and at least open to your causes, as I believe that science is the only way to allow mankind to survive. However, as you are giving away your blog to someone like Prof. Roessler, who – if you do some simple web search – is not the respected scientist he claims to be (and your bio of him is painting an awfully wrong picture), Lifeboat is losing lots of credibility. Roessler has published most of his research in papers, that have low, if any scientific ratings, or where the editors have been convicted of scientific and financial fraud. He compares the work of CERN scientists with the horror of the Nazis. And as he shows in this forum, he is not even familiar with the most basic physical concepts. If there are any physicists on your board or in your editorial group, they would immediately see this... I am puzzled the University of Tubingen is allowing him to represent the faculty."

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  14. Now 191. Rössler still avoids to answer the questions of TRMG....

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  15. Wow! Hansel asked Rössler about the dimension of his T...this is his answer:

    Otto E. Rössler on July 3, 2011 12:27 pm
    Any you wish.

    Wow! What a crackpot"

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  16. 272 now and Rössler totally confused :D

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  17. Rössler is quiet now. TRMG must be a real nightmare...

    http://lifeboat.com/blog/2011/07/cern-by-not-updating-its-three-years-old-safety-page-compromises-the-quoted-scientists

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  18. http://lifeboat.com/blog/2011/07/cern-by-not-updating-its-three-years-old-safety-page-compromises-the-quoted-scientists

    I tried to leave a comment on that thread but it failed to post. Lifeboat is not coded very well. There are the paging problems too.

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  19. Jason, the software seems to randomly flag comments as "awaiting moderation," which obviously means they are doomed to stay in limbo. This is much more likely to happen to comments containig any links, even links to other comment pages on lifeboat. In case this was the problem, then masking the links and trying again some hours later should work. It's a little annoying, but aside from that I had no problems posting.

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  20. Indeed, it had links. That must have been the problem. Thanks!

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  21. Sometimes they are also deleting postings randomly....

    Rössler has now presented the collected bullshit of his whole life:
    http://lifeboat.com/blog/2011/07/food-for-my-detractors-all-my-scientic-results-in-a-nutshell

    Amazing!

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  22. I called El Naschie a liar and their filter won't allow it. Then I tried circumlocution, and their filter thinks I'm spamming. I hate that site.

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  23. I believe Otto is in charge of comment moderation there. All my comments have been disallowed.

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  24. I thought the same over the last few days. It is really a pain to write comments there. Sometimes they are flagged as spam, sometimes they are awaiting moderation and sometimes comments are deleted without any further comment.

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  25. I think I'm banned there. Everything I try gets spam flagged, no matter how innocuous.

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  26. Oh, tomorrow it will work again. Was the same with me.

    The user ME has linked an interesting article about lifeboat there:

    http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/4610

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  27. Very strange. I also noticed comments from Hansel disappearing. That never happended to any of mine, though some of them were flagged as spam too.

    And you really seem to get temporarily banned as soon as the software takes exception to any of your comments. But a few hours later it always works again. If Jason's ban is permanent this would be interesting. So far I had the impression that the other lifeboat people don't bother much anymore about what's going on in the Rössler threads, and that their random spam filtering was their way of getting the most moderation with the least efforts.

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  28. I just tried again. I think my ban is permanent.

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  29. I am again banned after a few comments...

    Rössler avoids any clarification of his eq1 but someone there is blocking all comments about the topic...

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  30. And again all comments are were deleted.

    Looks nice to see Rösslers answer to my deleted comments. :D

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  31. Unbelievable. Criticism is not allowed.

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  32. What a shit software or mod there! I tried several times to write something about this superfluidity stuff or his avaoidance to answer questions concerning his inconsistent equations...even when someone has already answered the respective post is deleted.

    Unbelievable.

    Therefore it is important to have some blogs like El NaschieWatch or RelativKritisch in Germany to show the imposture of Rössler, El Naschie etc.

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  33. What's so infuriating is the pretense that it's a discussion forum. They just delete criticism! Bastards.

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  34. Surprising! Rössler came online and immediatly it became impossible to write new postings.

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  35. It's his finger on the "delete" button then. That explains Lifeboat's particular antipathy to my postings regardless of what I say.

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  36. Rössler with no answer but a new posting:

    http://lifeboat.com/blog/2011/07/can-the-world-live-with-the-logic-of-cern

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