Sunday, November 6, 2011

Off-topic vituperative gossip post

It is very rare that we depart from our All El Naschie All the Time theme. It has happened perhaps five or six times since this blog began. This is one of those times.


[Text removed by request, as promised in the comments.]


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27 comments:

  1. Another reason not to read Luboš's blog.

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  2. On contentious issues I try to read both sides.

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  3. No response has appeared yet on Not Even Wrong.

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  4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9i00rD8Gq4

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  5. @Jason: yes, on contentious issues I would also read both sides. But this commenter's entry just reads like a libelous smear campaign. We have no way to check whether it is even remotely true, or do we?
    If someone would write something like this about me, I would just ignore it.

    Concerning Luboš's blog, I stopped reading it since it seems to have little content recently beyond repeating the same topics over and over and insulting those with different views from his own.

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  6. check this:

    http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=4127

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  7. Well, assume any or all of these allegations are true, merely for the sake of argument. What would you make of such a person, if Woit is any of these things?

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  8. Please delete this posting immediately. It is slanderous and includes a vicious attempt to hurt an innocent party. By posting this material you are making yourself an accessory to a criminal act of extortion.

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  9. Peter, why did you give an explicit permission to Luboš to keep Mark Nuckols' comments on his blog then (unless Luboš made that up)?

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  10. shrink,

    Lubos made that up, along with most of the rest of what he wrote there. He has now seen the error of his ways and removed this material. At this point, the owner of this blog is the only person who has refused to take the material down.

    Again, what is posted here is repulsive slander coming from someone trying to get it on the internet as the carrying out of an extortion attempt where the woman in question refused to pay him. Take this down immediately or you you will be an accessory to felony extortion charges.

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  11. Sorry, but what is this about? Does this mean that everybody who writes an arguable book or runs an arguable blog must accept to have discussed his private life in public? What is the relevance of all this for the string theory debate?

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  12. It's just gossip and it has nothing to do with the string theory debate.

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  13. Jason, you lost me on this. I usually enjoy your blog, and I consider unmasking charlatans such as El-Naschie or Rossler a commendable activity which well justifies some unconventional methods. I myself did my little bit on Rossler's blog, before concluding that he's already finished and that the best course of action is just to let him fade into oblivion. But hey - as another commenter writes above - "what is THIS about"? Or in other words, what does this whole Woit/Nuckols story have to do with scientific quackery? You hypocritically write that "this is not an endorsement", but you are de facto volunteering "El Naschie Watch" as a megaphone for a vicious slander campaign against two people (Woit and his ex wife) who - I presume - never harmed you in their life. You should take responsibility for what people can read in your blog, and - I am sorry to tell you - right now you are just being childish with your "gossip", and you are siding with the bad guys. Of course that's within your prerogatives, but you are tainting "El Naschie Watch" along the way.

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  14. OOOH, I hadn't even seen the latest update with the e-mail exchange when I wrote the comment above. Jason, it really looks like you are being an asshole just for the fun of it. I'm done with your blog, such a pity.

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  15. I take the criticism of long-time blog readers like PassingByAgain seriously. I have given this some thought. PassingByAgain said "Jason, you lost me on this."

    I don't mind that Peter called me a disgusting psychopath, but when he wrote "Take this down immediately or you will be an accessory to felony extortion charges" he lost me too. I don't like legal bullies like El Naschie; I don't like the experiences I've had with them in real life; and I won't cave to Peter's legal threat.

    Moreover, the Nuckols screed paints an ugly picture of Peter and a sympathetic one of Ellen. I won't take down what embarrasses Peter (and parts of which checked out, as we saw in my update) on the basis of his implausible claim that he's just thinking of Ellen. Here's my improved offer, arrived at after soul-searching. If she wants the post to come down she can ask me by email and I will remove the entire body leaving only the headline and these explanatory comments. If she doesn't care I'll leave it up. I won't do anything because Peter threatens me.

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  16. Hi Jason,

    I`m positively impressed by steadfastness considering these email threats You are getting, thumbs up!
    It is good that this post and the corresponding comments are still here such that people can not only learn that PW is a nasty sourball who tries to negatively influence and destroy science (about which he has no clue) but to unmask him as a real possibly dangerous psychopath too.
    I think in his email threats PW is just bluffing becaus although I`m no lawier of course I think the message from Mark contains nothing that is in conflict with the law. The compatibility between PWs behaviour (threatening people and instigating his "helpers") is interesting question :-) ...

    I`ve already decided some month ago to refrain from clicking PWs blog becaus he is so unfair, destructive, scornful and biased (deleting immediately the comments of everybody who does not agree with him).

    So dear Jason, I thank You again for submitting to the threats You get.
    As You correctly say, the only person who has the right to ask for the post being deleted is Ellen.

    Best

    Dilaton

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  17. Oh sorry for my typos, this whole story upsets me a bit I`m usually better in writing ...
    I mean thank You for NOT submitting of course (for example).

    Dilaton again

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  18. You`re welcome :-)

    We`ll see, if PW gets excited enough he`ll maybe bring himself in conflict with the law, if he has not already done this ;-P ...

    Have a nice day (ahm or night? I`m sitting in Europe ha ha)

    Cheers

    Dilaton

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  20. Just for the record, "PassingByAgain": You can find information about Jason's private life (which can easily be characterized as defamation) in the comments by El Naschie's sock-puppets. And guess what? Jason ignored that totally.

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  21. PassingByAgain, she doesn't have to beg, she just has to ask. I will take the material down immediately and I won't publish her request.

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  22. Deleted per request, as I promised. PassingByAgain, I deleted your last post not because it was critical of me, but because it quoted from the screed. Feel free to re-post criticism of me.

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  23. No reason to re-post criticism, you did the right thing (also in deleting my last comment). Cheers!

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