Saturday, July 7, 2012

Sockpuppet "Marvin" defends El Naschie

"Marvin" claims to have attended the court proceedings. This is from Rössler's Lifeboat Foundation blog, as reported to us by El Naschie Watch reader PassingByAgain.


Marvin on July 7, 2012 9:17 am

I am a journalist who covered this affair and came extra from a gulf state. After attending a three week trial with the exception of odd days I formed the definite conviction that the whole thing was a set up to destroy the reputation of a great Muslim scholar, thinker and a scientist apart from being a famous structure engineer by zionists and imperialists and those who destroyed Palestine, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Sudan and now trying to destroy Egypt and syria and steal the oil riches of Saudi Arabia. Prof. Mohamed el nashaie made an application in my presence for the case to be transferred to the criminal court in the Old Bailey. Mrs. Sharp the judge who was handpicked by nature’s solicitors refused the application. She also refused to discuss the plagiarism committed against prof. El naschiei the year 2008. In essence the Zionist establishment wanted to hijack his theory and when he objected they decided to destroy him. He made no secret of these things in court. You should read his closing speech and learn about the shameful details. You should read about the south African Neil Turok who was bribed by nature to pretend he is an expert on el naschie’s work and in fact he isn’t.turok is a friend and member of the group that hijacked elnaschie’s work in scientific American in 2008. He is a dealer wheeler involved in many financial scandals connected to the institute he now directs, the perimeter institute.he replaced the honorable dr. Howard burton who is the founding director and he refused to misappropriate government funds in the millions of dollars. The entire affair is messy and disgusting. My definite feeling is that the shameful truth will come out.


If you visit the Lifeboat site, you'll see Marvin isn't fooling anyone.

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20 comments:

  1. "You should read his closing speech and learn about the shameful details."

    We don't have it, Marvin. Please provide it.

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  2. Pretty the same style of arguments as that explaining why the Great Man haven't got the Nobel yet. LOL

    Hey, Marvin: I must say that your name is very typical of the gulf states. LOL

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  3. Wait, there's more:

    Hassan Selbi on July 8, 2012 12:53 am

    Even though I still think that El Naschie’s theory is still not complete, I am convinced that it is only the beginning of revolutionary ideas that are needed to put physics on the right track. Judgement in court cannot touch on this fact. There may be mistakes by El Naschie here and there regarding his publication attitude, but the future will tell that his ideas will constitute the bases for a new physics in the long run. No body has so far shown the flaws in his ideas and the court and Turok are not qualified to do so. Nature may be one of the proper places for such scientific discussion. I invite Nature and its editors to be courageous enough to start such a pure scientific discussion to shows these scientific flaws if any on both scientific and philosophical grounds. Misprints and misnomers in his papers are not of much interest, as well as the number of his papers or the way they have been reviewed, or his affiliations. What matters most is the science in these papers, and scientists would like to see this science discussed far away from a Jason style.
    If Nature cannot do this, then this will add more to the conviction of many that there is a conspiracy at work. This would be strengthened by the fact that most of the court judgement is more or less an edited version of the elnaschiewatchwatch blog.

    The way things have unfolded and the insistence of some on attacking El Naschie in person in the Jason style makes no doubt that the Jason gang is the same as the Nature gang and the High Court gange. The future definitely will uncover the truth, the real truth.

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  4. Another sockpuppet named "Hassan Selbi" has appeared. His comments are pure comedy gold, e.g.:

    "Even though I still think that El Naschie’s theory is still not complete, I am convinced that it is only the beginning of revolutionary ideas that are needed to put physics on the right track. Judgement in court cannot touch on this fact.[...]No body has so far shown the flaws in his ideas and the court and Turok are not qualified to do so. Nature may be one of the proper places for such scientific discussion. I invite Nature and its editors to be courageous enough to start such a pure scientific discussion to shows these scientific flaws if any on both scientific and philosophical grounds.
    Misprints and misnomers in his papers are not of much interest, as well as the number of his papers or the way they have been reviewed, or his affiliations. What matters most is the science in these papers, and scientists would like to see this science discussed far away from a Jason style.
    If Nature cannot do this, then this will add more to the conviction of many that there is a conspiracy at work. This would be strengthened by the fact that most of the court judgement is more or less an edited version of the elnaschiewatchwatch blog. The way things have unfolded and the insistence of some on attacking El Naschie in person in the Jason style makes no doubt that the Jason gang is the same as the Nature gang and the High Court gange. The future definitely will uncover the truth, the real truth."

    and

    "You are repeating what the judge has concluded, where she is not qualified and cannot be qualified to judge the scientific part of any dispute like the present one, with the help of Turok, the non-expert, or anybody else.[...]

    What I am calling for is very simple and fair. Nature should now invite one or more scientist to present a scientific discussion of the flaws in El Naschie’s scientific ideas. The court judgement cannot be accepted as a substitute for such a discussion as this has never happened in the history of science, except at the time of Galileo. I repeat, if Nature fails to do so, then I personally will still be skeptical that a covert conspiracy has been at work and your arguments, which are a repitition of what Turok the non-expert has said in court, do not convince many people, and the personal aspect of the matter prevails."

    Such typical conspiracy theory arguments which are a trademark of the Great Man's sockpuppets. It seems the Great Man will continue to live in his own delusional universe, no matter of the public, expert or court opinion.

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  5. Ha, PassingByAgain was quicker than me. :)

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  6. ...and it never ends:

    Hassan Selbi on July 8, 2012 4:31 am
    (...)
    The possibility that Nature, elnaschiewatch blog, and possibly even the court lately, are part of this conspiracy may have evidence in the now confirmed observation that the court judgement report contains more or less edited versions of the content of elnaschiewatch blog. The court is not even ashamed from referring to this shadowy elnaschiewatch blog as a source in the judgement report . People who will read that judgement report will certainly observe this link between all these things. So, there must be something “fishy” going on, to use the same word used by Mrs Sharp in the judgement report.
    (...)

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  7. I am concerned that this Lifeboat thread may disappear. I have asked Tom Kerwick to make sure it stays safe (and Otto in the first comment asked that it not be deleted). But it's all important. It may be time to create a new archive just in case.

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  8. Such a classic sockpuppet. ;)

    While it's obvious the Nature solicitors used information from this blog that doesn't mean such information is false; on the contrary: this blog makes it possible to verify it because it provides also the original sources.

    So, sockpuppet, think of this blog as a guide to relevant sources. But be aware, sockpuppet, not to be tempted to link the opponent parties to this blog. Your "master" made such a mistake with Die Zeit which obtained a court injuction to stop claiming this blog is linked to Die Zeit in any fashion. :)

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  9. Jason, you definitely must create an archive: the exchange between the sockuppet and "rpenner" is epic already. :)

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  10. "Ahmad Kamal on July 9, 2012 9:35 am

    You should know what Iraq and its destruction has to do with science, unless you are a member of the Jason Gang who do not know but the phrase “sock puppets”."

    The "Jason Gang!" I suggest putting this quote as a caption to a YouTube video of Wu Tang Clan's "Protect Ya Neck."

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  11. Iraq and science - I guess it is the zionist conspiracy again.

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  12. Jap, "Jason Gang" has become part of the standard thesaurus of sockpuppets. Notice that Hassan Selbi is the same Hassan who commented on FrogHeart in last November when he's already had complaints on Turok's testimony (and used the "term": "Jason and his gang"). LOL

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  13. BTW, is there a characeristic in his writing which can confirm the identity of the sock puppets and El Naschie? I am not that familiar with him and his writing than probably the "gang" here ;)

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  14. Oh, yes, there is, e.g., the film and novel analogies. El Naschie used such analogies extensively in his column in Rosa Al-Youssef and the sockpuppets use them from time to time as well.

    BTW: Hassan Selbi has appeared in the comments of Nature's news article about the verdict. He repeats the complaints about the judgment and mentions the conspiracy but he refrains himself from mentioning the "Jason Gang"; until now. :D

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  15. and now Rösslers asks to return to science and leave politics....somewhat funny.

    rpenner is great!!

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  16. Yes, "rpenner's" replies are devastating; the last two, in particular, have blown away Otto's and Hassan's "arguments.

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  17. Indeed: "arguments" (the quotation mark on the right didn't make it to appear). :)

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  18. OMFG, Hassan (in comments under Nature's news article) urges El Naschie to write a book about E-Infinity which will provide the tennants for it. :D

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  19. so even to is sokc puppet he was not able to present a reference for it :D

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